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Re: Toy Story Playland - Opening late August 2010

Postby lil-shawn » Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:28 pm

But beside all this not-exceptional themeing there are still three rides that a TokyoDisneyLand never would built. Because its not worth for a DisneyPark


Didn´t anyone told you that tokyo disney also have build carnival rides like this? if not look out for
the little mermaid land at disney sea here you will find it...
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Re: Toy Story Playland - Opening late August 2010

Postby ed-uk » Sat Mar 20, 2010 1:01 pm

This has been one of my points, Disney have always built carnival (for lack of a better word ) style rides in their parks. They built them in the 1950's and they're still building them today. I think TSPL is starting to look very promising judging from pictures shown. It's the themeing of TSPL that will make it stand out from other theme parks. When it comes to imagineering and theme park design I still think Disney is the best. I thought they would come up with something very good with John Lasseter involved, if his success at Pixar is anything to go by.
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Re: Toy Story Playland - Opening late August 2010

Postby DopeyDad » Sat Mar 20, 2010 1:39 pm

Is it policy for DLRP to not give away much in the way of theming, details of rides etc. It stikes me that a lot of fuming about Disney losing their way/capacity problems/poor theming etc, might have been avoided if more of the concept materials or publicity and information in general were given. Or would this diminish later publicity in some way?
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Re: Toy Story Playland - Opening late August 2010

Postby DopeyDad » Sat Mar 20, 2010 1:41 pm

Or, maybe they enjoy poking the Internet community of course :)
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Re: Toy Story Playland - Opening late August 2010

Postby ed-uk » Sat Mar 20, 2010 1:52 pm

I think DLP release details of themeing and rides when they're good and ready, for all sorts of reasons no doubt. I don't think they set out to poke the internet community. But I do think the internet community might be too quick to pass judgment on something, and say it's not Disney quality, especially if they have a low opinion of EuroDisney, which I do not.
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Re: Toy Story Playland - Opening late August 2010

Postby davewasbaloo » Sat Mar 20, 2010 6:37 pm

When you put lipstick on a pig, it is still a pig. The theming around the place will be a nice difference (like in Bugs land in DCA), but it still will not solve the capacity issues nor the fact these are still carni rides.

Yes, I will admit, I am a little happier now I have seen these shots, but the attractions themselves will still have monster waits, the will be horrible in the winter, and they can be experienced anywhere. What's the betting that if they are not installed in the begining, there will be barriers stopping people interacting with the props, like they did with Race Rally. Also, I have to laugh that I am probably one of the few DLP regulars that ever played with a slinky dog, lincoln logs, and tinker toys.

So in short, yes, I am midly surprised with the theming, but still mad this is the direction they have gone in. I am somewhat relieved John and WDI are making this happen, but Disney's batting average for attractions designed in this millenia is really poor.
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Re: Toy Story Playland - Opening late August 2010

Postby ed-uk » Sat Mar 20, 2010 7:51 pm

Aren't Disney allowed to build any Carni style rides in the future then, other than Flying Carpets or Flying Elephants and the usual Carousal? I'm not argueing for them, but Disney has always used carni style rides in their theme parks. At least the rides in TSPL will be different for DLP. Disney have always had smaller rides a long side their bigger rides like TOT and Rock n Roller coaster.
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Re: Toy Story Playland - Opening late August 2010

Postby davewasbaloo » Sat Mar 20, 2010 7:55 pm

ed-uk wrote:Aren't Disney allowed to build any Carni style rides in the future than, other than Flying Carpets or Flying Elephants and the usual Carousel?


Wish they hadn't been built either. Big difference is most of the stupid carni stuff had great attractions, restaurants and shops around them. Here the focus is on the carni stuff.

Not everything has to be an e-ticket, no. And even though I am not a fan of TSMM, that would still be preferrable.
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Re: Toy Story Playland - Opening late August 2010

Postby SkySurfer » Sat Mar 20, 2010 8:14 pm

lil-shawn wrote: Didn´t anyone told you that tokyo disney also have build carnival rides like this?

I knew but maybe choose the wrong words!
This one dumbo style - ride at Tokyo is no comparison to a complete theme-area where steel grows in the the air everywhere. Some probs more or less won´t chance this!!!! Its a shame for a Disney - Theme - Park
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Re: Toy Story Playland - Opening late August 2010

Postby smurfy74 » Sat Mar 20, 2010 9:53 pm

went with my mum this week and she said she loved the studios but really wanted a nice place to sit and have a cup of coffee and cake ( she went to the cable car and liked it in there ) and she was surprised that they werent building any eateries in the new land
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Re: Toy Story Playland - Opening late August 2010

Postby Alan » Sat Mar 20, 2010 10:10 pm

It would make sense that, if the Ratatouille ride comes with an attached restaurant, then that restaurant's kitchen will also be shared by another new restaurant/cafe that will take over the rest of the Costuming Building.

And if that's the case, it would be logical if this second restaurant was themed to either Toy Story or Cars. For example, if it had a Toy Story theme then Pizza Planet would be an obvious choice. And if it had a Cars theme, an updated version of the Sci-Fi Dine-In Theater would be an obvious choice.
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Re: Toy Story Playland - Opening late August 2010

Postby ed-uk » Sat Mar 20, 2010 10:18 pm

That sounds OK to me. As the park grows and people stay longer in the Studios hopefully Disney will need to build another restaurant and more shops in the future. I'm not sure that now is the time though. There are all those restaurants just around the corner in Disney Village.
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Re: Toy Story Playland - Opening late August 2010

Postby SkySurfer » Sat Mar 20, 2010 10:32 pm

ed-uk wrote: I'm not sure that now is the time though. There are all those restaurants just around the corner in Disney Village.

Yes! And don´t forget all those restaurants we have around the corner in Paris! :-s
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Re: Toy Story Playland - Opening late August 2010

Postby ed-uk » Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:58 pm

Paris is a bit further out though, like 40 minutes away by metro. I was talking about Disney Village which is just 5 minutes walk away from WDS to find a restaurant, which might be more convenient than Paris. Or there are restaurants in the Studios.
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Re: Toy Story Playland - Opening late August 2010

Postby Anthony » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:05 am

Maybe SkySurfer was being sarcastic... Ideally you don't want people having to leave your theme park just to get something to eat, you ply them with all kinds of food at every turn and make as much money as possible.

It's a shame the tram tour route couldn't have been pushed a bit further back at the far end of the land and something around the size of Last Chance Cafe put into the back, between RC Racer and the blue monkey barrel tunnel. (A Brown Derby of the Toy Story world with seating underneath a giant Mr Potato Head hat please)
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Re: Toy Story Playland - Opening late August 2010

Postby ed-uk » Sun Mar 21, 2010 3:09 am

You don't have to leave the theme park to get something to eat. There's Studio 1, Restaurant of the Stars and BlockBuster Cafe. But I'm not against another restaurant in the park, a Brown Derby would be very nice. I just ment WDS is still a small park, half the size of Disneyland, and with more restaurants in Disney Village so close. But as WDS grows and more people come and stay longer in the park more restaurants and shops will be needed, I'm sure.
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Re: Toy Story Playland - Opening late August 2010

Postby SkySurfer » Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:34 pm

Anthony wrote:Maybe SkySurfer was being sarcastic...


Yes, I was. Thank you Anthony :mrgreen:

ed-uk wrote:You don't have to leave the theme park to get something to eat.


So I guess, you have never been inside the park, when it was really crowded. Otherwise you wouldn´t argue like this.
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Re: Toy Story Playland - Opening late August 2010

Postby ed-uk » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:57 pm

when we go to WDS we always eat in Restaurant of the Stars which works out fine for us busy or not. We usually eat early or late to avoid the queues. Last year we found we could book a table. And last summer Restaurant of the Stars was closing at 4pm if I remember right, I did question the wisdom of that, the park was busy and people were being turned away at the entrance. It was only open for lunch. They could have the restaurant open longer and avoid building another one. Cafe des Cascadeurs used to be good, but how often is that open now? If the park closes at 6pm or 7pm people will go on to Disneyland Park, or Disney Village to eat or at their hotel. In the summer we often find Block Buster Cafe closed or half empty. People seem to prefer crowding into Studio 1. I'm not arqueing against having another restaurant in the Studios, as I have said, as the park gets more popular and stays open longer in the evening, I'm sure they will need another restaurant. At the moment I have to ask myself does TSPL really need a restaurant, even a small one. Until it does we could try all those restaurants we have round the corner in Calais.
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Re: Toy Story Playland - Opening late August 2010

Postby ford prefect » Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:59 pm

Dlp.info pointed me in the direction of Themeparkreview

http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/vi ... p?p=870485

It shows pictures of Buzz, some props and the soldiers.

I am quite looking forward to seeing this land!
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Re: Toy Story Playland - Opening late August 2010

Postby never2old » Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:00 pm

In case you haven't seen it, Disney and More have a nice little article on TSPL (though all the pictures have already been posted here)

I have to say, I'm really looking forward to seeing this finished, particularly those toy soldiers!!
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